Comments for GermanWineEstates Message Board http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com Share Your German Wine Experiences Thu, 15 May 2008 01:47:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Howard http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-154 Howard Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:07:00 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-154 Sorry for the typo... Mosel-Saar-Ruwer. Sorry for the typo…
Mosel-Saar-Ruwer.

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Howard http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-153 Howard Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:04:20 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-153 Wondering if anyone has tried Starling Castle Riesling - it's a 2006 Mosel-Laar-Ruwer White Wine. Had bought first bottle a few years ago on vacation on Boca Grande, FL. Hadn't been able to find it again until recently. Found it again at a local grocery store. It is a better-than-average table wine. Well balanced riesling with a fruity bouquet. Wondering if anyone has tried Starling Castle Riesling - it’s a 2006 Mosel-Laar-Ruwer White Wine.
Had bought first bottle a few years ago on vacation on Boca Grande, FL.
Hadn’t been able to find it again until recently.
Found it again at a local grocery store.
It is a better-than-average table wine.
Well balanced riesling with a fruity bouquet.

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Paul de Rooij http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-150 Paul de Rooij Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:44:15 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-150 I have recently visited the german "Mosel" area. In the small village called Pünderich I have visited a wine producers called Werner lay. This family is now the third generation active in wine production. On the steep slopes of the Mosel they grow a variety of grapes like, Rivaner, Riesling, Grauburgunder, Weissburgunder and Dornfelder. They have a nice cellar in which we have tasted all wines produced between 2004 and 2007. From the sweet Spätlese and Auslese to the dry Riesling and Winzer sect. One of the product I liked most was the rotling, a kind of Rose wine based on Riesling and Dornfelder and the riesling classic. I have recently visited the german “Mosel” area. In the small village called Pünderich I have visited a wine producers called Werner lay. This family is now the third generation active in wine production. On the steep slopes of the Mosel they grow a variety of grapes like, Rivaner, Riesling, Grauburgunder, Weissburgunder and Dornfelder. They have a nice cellar in which we have tasted all wines produced between 2004 and 2007. From the sweet Spätlese and Auslese to the dry Riesling and Winzer sect. One of the product I liked most was the rotling, a kind of Rose wine based on Riesling and Dornfelder and the riesling classic.

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Michael http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-141 Michael Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:51:27 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-141 Howard, Hauth-Kerpan is a very well respected producer from what I researched. I have not had one for many years..just doesn\'t show up around here often enough. Sounds like you enjoyed it! cheers! I just received an order from the Wine Club. I bought two bottles of Dr Fischer 2004 Ockfener Bockstein Kabinett, a bottle of the Feburary wine of the month..2006 Schloss Schonborn Estate Riesling QBA and a bottle of 2005 Erbacher Marcobrunn Kabinett Schloss Schonborn. The shipping killed me here on the west coast....but what are you going to do? Taste Taste Taste Ockfener Bockstein Kabinett-light and spicy, fills the mouth Schloss Schonborn Estate Riesling QBA-Delicious! lots of character. I will update you on the Kabinett later. One wine I have to tell you about is the 2005 Josephshofer Spatlese-Kesselstaat. This wine was incredible! Very unique, fat juicy peaches with lemons, earth and spice! The finish goes on and on. Howard, Hauth-Kerpan is a very well respected producer from what I researched. I have not had one for many years..just doesn\’t show up around here often enough. Sounds like you enjoyed it! cheers! I just received an order from the Wine Club. I bought two bottles of Dr Fischer 2004 Ockfener Bockstein Kabinett, a bottle of the Feburary wine of the month..2006 Schloss Schonborn Estate Riesling QBA and a bottle of 2005 Erbacher Marcobrunn Kabinett Schloss Schonborn. The shipping killed me here on the west coast….but what are you going to do? Taste Taste Taste Ockfener Bockstein Kabinett-light and spicy, fills the mouth Schloss Schonborn Estate Riesling QBA-Delicious! lots of character. I will update you on the Kabinett later. One wine I have to tell you about is the 2005 Josephshofer Spatlese-Kesselstaat. This wine was incredible! Very unique, fat juicy peaches with lemons, earth and spice! The finish goes on and on.

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Howard http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-66 Howard Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:09:13 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-66 Tasting notes on the Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese: Fruity, but not too sweet; with a mineral finish. Tasting notes on the Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese: Fruity, but not too sweet; with a mineral finish.

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Howard http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-65 Howard Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:05:44 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-65 Continuation: Has anybody tried this wine? Continuation:
Has anybody tried this wine?

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Howard http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-64 Howard Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:04:30 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-64 I purchased a 2004er Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese (Weingut Eduard Hauth-Kerpen) for the first time this past weekend. I purchased a 2004er Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese (Weingut Eduard Hauth-Kerpen) for the first time this past weekend.

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Michael http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-54 Michael Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:22:38 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-54 Howard, Thanks for the update. I feel like a pain in the rear on this subject. My confusion is still there. I have three labels from Erdener Pralat from three different producers (Monchof, Loosen & Christoffel-Berres that are EXACTLY the same except for the producers name. I could send you an email of these labels and you could see what my conundrum is. Funny the source you received is from Oregon...just up the road from me! I have always liked Selbach wines. Always seem to be of high quality. Cheers Michael Howard,

Thanks for the update. I feel like a pain in the rear on this subject. My confusion is still there. I have three labels from Erdener Pralat from three different producers (Monchof, Loosen & Christoffel-Berres that are EXACTLY the same except for the producers name.
I could send you an email of these labels and you could see what my conundrum is.
Funny the source you received is from Oregon…just up the road from me!
I have always liked Selbach wines. Always seem to be of high quality.
Cheers
Michael

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Howard http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-52 Howard Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:43:39 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-52 Michael, Here's the response I got back on the question abou the monk depicted on the different labels: Thanks for your email. Sorry it's taken so long to reply - I had to check on this myself. A number of different producers use some version (there are some differences in design) of the traditional label for Erdener Pralat, which features an idealized image of a bishop or abbot (Pralat means "prelate." a high ecclesiastical title). It's a small section of vineyard that originally was part of Erdener Treppchen, but took on the Pralat name sometime in the late 1800's. Occasionally you will see old labels that say "Erdener Treppchen" with "Erdener Pralat" in parentheses. Willi Schaefer's labels feature a similar character related to the village of Graach. The vineyards in this area were mostly owned by the church before Napoleon came through, so there were a lot of monks and monasteries around in the old days. Anyway, it's all about tradition, which Germans are loath to abandon. Kind regards, Kirk Wille, VP Loosen Bros. USA Ltd. 20501 South Tranquility Lane Oregon City, OR 97045 Tel 503-984-3041 Fax 503-631-3209 Question I sent in was: How did the label on the Erdener Pralat come about? The sitting monk? I have a wine friend who asks abou the label as he has seen other wines with monk on label? Also, with regard to the wines you listed that you have recently tasted, I have tried the Von Hovel label. What I have tried was very good. I purchased a bottle of Selbach 2005 Riesling Auslese Bernkasteler Kurfurstlay yesterday. Tasting notes: fruity on the palate with a mineral finish. Very good; not too sweet - $15 Michael,

Here’s the response I got back on the question abou the monk depicted on the different labels:

Thanks for your email. Sorry it’s taken so long to reply - I had to check on this myself. A number of different producers use some version (there are some differences in design) of the traditional label for Erdener Pralat, which features an idealized image of a bishop or abbot (Pralat means “prelate.” a high ecclesiastical title). It’s a small section of vineyard that originally was part of Erdener Treppchen, but took on the Pralat name sometime in the late 1800’s. Occasionally you will see old labels that say “Erdener Treppchen” with “Erdener Pralat” in parentheses.

Willi Schaefer’s labels feature a similar character related to the village of Graach. The vineyards in this area were mostly owned by the church before Napoleon came through, so there were a lot of monks and monasteries around in the old days.

Anyway, it’s all about tradition, which Germans are loath to abandon.

Kind regards,

Kirk Wille, VP
Loosen Bros. USA Ltd.
20501 South Tranquility Lane
Oregon City, OR 97045
Tel 503-984-3041
Fax 503-631-3209

Question I sent in was:
How did the label on the Erdener Pralat come about? The sitting monk?
I have a wine friend who asks abou the label as he has seen other wines with monk on label?

Also, with regard to the wines you listed that you have recently tasted, I have tried the Von Hovel label. What I have tried was very good.
I purchased a bottle of Selbach 2005 Riesling Auslese Bernkasteler Kurfurstlay yesterday. Tasting notes: fruity on the palate with a mineral finish. Very good; not too sweet - $15

]]> Comment on Welcome to the GermanWineEstates Message Board by Michael http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-51 Michael Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:21:17 +0000 http://messageboard.germanwineestates.com/2008/01/30/hello-world-2/#comment-51 Saar Tasting and notes... I haven't seen any new posts lately so here I go...I decided to spark some dialog from my German Wine friends. I am by no means an expert on German wines, but I have collected and enjoyed German wines since the late 70's starting when I was in the restaurant business as a waiter/wine captain/maitre d. I have also been involved in the Oregon wine industry since the mid 80's as a cellar master/assistant wine maker for two wineries here in the Willamette Valley, Oregon. I am a very big fan of Riesling and even bigger fan of German wine. I just thought I would like to share.... These are wines I have tasted in the last few months. no stars, no overblown comments, prices are retail in Oregon USA. 2006 Saarburger Rausch Kabinett-Dr. Wagner- Crisp - $22.00 2004 Oberemmeler Hutte Spatese-von Hovel - Spicy - $25.00 2005 Ayler Kupp Spatlese - Bischoflichen Priesterseminars - This is Saar - $21.50 2003 Saar Riesling Spatlese (Alte Reben) - Van Volxem - Dried Fruit - $23.00 2006 Saarbuger Rauch Spatlese - Zilliken - I am glad I bought two - $36.00 1999 Scharzhofberger Kabinett - Kesselstat - Pineapples - $17.00! 2002 Serriger Schloss Saarsteiner Spatlese - Dr. Ebert - Peaches - $21.50 2005 Scharzhofberger Kabinett - Vereinigte Hospitien - Crisp Fruit - $24.00 All comments and general info would be great. Michael Saar Tasting and notes…
I haven’t seen any new posts lately so here I go…I decided to spark some dialog from my German Wine friends. I am by no means an expert on German wines, but I have collected and enjoyed German wines since the late 70’s starting when I was in the restaurant business as a waiter/wine captain/maitre d. I have also been involved in the Oregon wine industry since the mid 80’s as a cellar master/assistant wine maker for two wineries here in the Willamette Valley, Oregon. I am a very big fan of Riesling and even bigger fan of German wine. I just thought I would like to share…. These are wines I have tasted in the last few months. no stars, no overblown comments, prices are retail in Oregon USA.

2006 Saarburger Rausch Kabinett-Dr. Wagner- Crisp - $22.00
2004 Oberemmeler Hutte Spatese-von Hovel - Spicy - $25.00
2005 Ayler Kupp Spatlese - Bischoflichen Priesterseminars - This is Saar - $21.50
2003 Saar Riesling Spatlese (Alte Reben) - Van Volxem - Dried Fruit - $23.00
2006 Saarbuger Rauch Spatlese - Zilliken - I am glad I bought two - $36.00
1999 Scharzhofberger Kabinett - Kesselstat - Pineapples - $17.00!
2002 Serriger Schloss Saarsteiner Spatlese - Dr. Ebert - Peaches - $21.50
2005 Scharzhofberger Kabinett - Vereinigte Hospitien - Crisp Fruit - $24.00
All comments and general info would be great.
Michael

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